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Dot in the Sky ([personal profile] dotinthesky) wrote2007-01-23 06:54 pm
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Brasil's Limbo Feels Lonely

I lost my Brasilian citizenship; or, more precisely, I've been thrown into Brasilian legal limbo.

This is what happened: although I was born in South Africa, my parents registered me in the Brasilian embassy (which included an official birth certificate.) Later, when we moved to Brasil, I was given an I.D. card and passport. For all intents and purposes, I was a Brasilian. My family lived in Hong Kong when I turned 18. Every male in Brasil is required to enlist with the military when they reach that age, which I did at Brasil's consulate in Hong Kong. I was given a document which I should give to the military as soon as I moved to Brasil. I also became eligible to vote. What they should have told me was that I needed to, as an adult, choose the Brasilian citizenship. Nothing was said, my passport was re-newed for ten years (which they shouldn't have done) and I went my merry way. When I lived in Brasil for one year, in 2000, the military gave me a letter saying that I was exempt from the army as long as I opted for dual citizenship. As soon as I gave up my British citizenship, my status with the army would change. Regardless of what I did, I was still a Brasilian.

My passport expired last year and the consulate in London explained to me that my status is fucked up: they can't give me a new passport because I failed to opt for citizenship when I turned 18; I'm now a non-brasilian eventhough I still have an I.D. card, birth certificate, can still vote, amongst other things. One consequence of being non-brasilian is that if something were to happen to my mom and brother, I wouldn't be able to inherit our property in Brasil; I also can't buy property or do a number of other things. Yes, that's Brasil's bureacracy for you.

The people at London's consulate agree with me that this is a ridiculous situation (I took this afternoon off to speak to them) and would gladly give me a new passport if they could. I've had to hire a lawyer in Brasil who will begin the process of sorting my legal status; but, as with all lawyers, it's going to cost me more than I can afford. Additionally, she says I can only fix my situation if I become a Brasilian resident again, which means going back to Brasil for a long period of time -- probably in July/August. It means quitting my job, it means the possibility of temp-hell when I return to London (if I return here...); it means all the best laid plans thrown up in the air.

[identity profile] sparklielizard.livejournal.com 2007-01-23 07:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh no. What a bureaucratic mess! You're totally Brasilian through and through, and yet a poxy piece of paper says you're not and you have to jump through hoops for it, ruining your life in the process?

Best of luck. This is a seriously sucky discovery :-(

[identity profile] sbeth76.livejournal.com 2007-01-23 07:09 pm (UTC)(link)
That's fuc'd. I'm sorry. I hope it gets sorted out soon!
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[personal profile] izzybees 2007-01-23 07:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh no!! What a mess! It's terrible that the government's mistake is going to cost you so much - how unfair!

[identity profile] greenteablack.livejournal.com 2007-01-23 07:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh man Ollie that's a shit situation. I hope that this thing can be resolved without relocation. How long would you have to live in Brasil?
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[identity profile] shewasminetoo.livejournal.com 2007-01-23 07:28 pm (UTC)(link)
woah that's crazy, i hope something gets sorted out for you

[identity profile] stormecho.livejournal.com 2007-01-23 07:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Sorry to hear that. No carnival for you - pretty fucked up. :(

[identity profile] kirstenlj.livejournal.com 2007-01-23 07:49 pm (UTC)(link)
What a mess. I am going to be/am in a similar(ish) situation soon too. We'll miss you though. How long would you have to go for? Would Kevin go with you?

[identity profile] purplethings.livejournal.com 2007-01-23 08:00 pm (UTC)(link)
the possibility of temp-hell when I return to London

But surely you've been so wonderful at your job that they would be glad to have you back when you return?

[identity profile] brokenhaze.livejournal.com 2007-01-23 08:01 pm (UTC)(link)
That's awful, I can't believe that someone's incompetence is going to cost you so much personally to rectify. Do you think it's likely they will be able to solve the problem for you?

[identity profile] steer.livejournal.com 2007-01-23 08:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Brasilian legal limbo.

Is that a Mardi Gras tradition? "Now, time for the legal limbo... band, can we have a rhumba beat!"

Seriously though, good luck with becoming re-Brazillian.

[identity profile] noondaydemon.livejournal.com 2007-01-23 08:24 pm (UTC)(link)
That is just ridiculous! I hope you get contacted soon in order to be told that the whole thing was a "silly clerical error" and "it will never happen again":-)

I wonder whether talking to the press will help....

[identity profile] idioticpoet.livejournal.com 2007-01-23 08:25 pm (UTC)(link)
If at all possible, keep us informed of developments as they arise

wishes of well

[identity profile] saint-narcissus.livejournal.com 2007-01-23 08:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Ollie,
what an awful situation.
hope you a speedy rectification of this matter.
wishes of well for you my friend.
-David
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[identity profile] rag-and-bone.livejournal.com 2007-01-23 08:58 pm (UTC)(link)
oh dear god. that's so sad. do you feel very displaced? i wonder what you will do. is there any way that you can go back to brasil later, after you're ready to move on from your job in london?

[identity profile] rosamicula.livejournal.com 2007-01-23 09:16 pm (UTC)(link)
How horrible and stressful. Can I go and live in Brazil instead of you and save you all the hassle?

[identity profile] showwyourteeth.livejournal.com 2007-01-23 10:11 pm (UTC)(link)
bad things always happen to good people
fuck the government
you could always become a hermit and move into the forest =p

A Man Without a Country...

[identity profile] msanthropist.livejournal.com 2007-01-23 10:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Somehow sounds very fitting, given your flare for living the ordinary life in an extraordinary way. But seriously I believe everything happens for a reason and this is going to be sorted out with a minimum of interruption of your "real" life. Good luck and keep us posted!!! (What does your mom say about all this?)

[identity profile] tonight-we-fly.livejournal.com 2007-01-23 11:02 pm (UTC)(link)
What a complete nightmare. I'm sorry to hear about this unwelcome and large trauma, it all sounds so utterly senseless.

[identity profile] rasta-puppetman.livejournal.com 2007-01-23 11:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Brasil doesn't deserve you. i hope things work out for the best. Don't wanna end up like Tom Hanks in The Terminal

[identity profile] kevyn-kronycles.livejournal.com 2007-01-24 04:00 am (UTC)(link)
That really sucks...I hope you get all that sorted soon without too much difficulty...I know from personal experience how annoying all that bureaucracy can be

[identity profile] fj.livejournal.com 2007-01-24 05:01 am (UTC)(link)
Is it worth it?

[identity profile] thirstypixel.livejournal.com 2007-01-24 09:40 am (UTC)(link)
So much sympathy. How totally, utterly and completely screwed up :(

[identity profile] live-life-like.livejournal.com 2007-01-24 03:12 pm (UTC)(link)
mas que situaçao mais complicada, ollie.....
e é ainda mais complicado pra resolver.
omg...it sucks it really sucks!!!!!!

:(

like, se vc quiser a cidadania, vai ter que ficar morando aqui um tempo....é isso?

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