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Dot in the Sky ([personal profile] dotinthesky) wrote2003-11-14 10:01 am

Cheerio Frosty England!

Forget chainsaw massacres, forget lunatics in masks who kill babysitters; forget aliens ripping out of guts and definetly forget a state visit by the American President.

If you want to be horrified, watch Horizon.

If I were straight, I would be feeling torn right now about having children. I would be terrified of bringing a human being onto this planet, when Britain is heading for ice age, Central America will become grasslands, and Asia will lose its monsoons. I'll stick with my original plan of adopting and becoming the coolest gay dad in town. And I'll always remind my adopted children that they must not reproduce.

I will begin a tradition in my family, a tradition of adoption. I'll play Bjork in the mornings, when the kids are eating their cornflakes and dancing around the table. We'll form a small community of like-minded people in Brazil's countryside, raising our adopted children who, in their turn, will also adopt. We'll try to stop reproduction. If the mystics from Brazilia are right, and Brazil is the country of the future (where all the survivors of the 21st century will be) then I'll be safeguarding my children's lives by moving there.

He believes in a beauty... he's venus as a boy

Question: If America is so knowledgeable about global warming, has all the specialists who know how our world is going to shit, why is their government blocking any changes??? Madness...

[identity profile] commonpeople.livejournal.com 2003-11-16 02:41 am (UTC)(link)
there will always be those people who reproduce... because they don't know how to prevent it, and because they don't have much responsibility. Our human race is not the best thing that happened to this planet.

[identity profile] moonlightjoy.livejournal.com 2003-11-16 09:14 am (UTC)(link)
psst! Some people reproduce because they want to create a person who has some of their genes, and they can see how the person will be similar and different to the person doing the producing.

sometimes, reproduction is on purpose.

[identity profile] commonpeople.livejournal.com 2003-11-16 09:44 am (UTC)(link)
i know... and sometimes reproduction comes from a couple who want to see an example of their love, i guess... but I just believe that we have reached a point in our history where we have to put a stop to it. Culturally, it's madness. Just look at what's happening in societies where family values rule -- massive amounts of children, massive amounts of poverty, crime, misery. China, India, even America.

Then look at societies where the culture has become progressive, where having a child is carefully thought out - Sweden for example... and you see that those societies are doing much better.

I'm not saying that it's the only reason for those things - poverty vs. wealth... but it does count.

[identity profile] moonlightjoy.livejournal.com 2003-11-16 07:28 pm (UTC)(link)
this is the thing: religion breeds babies. that's the difference between India and Sweden, or Quebec and Mexico City. There is a crazy population and it's not about "responsability" really.. well, maybe it is. it's about who you're responsable to. There are people out there producing huge families because they feel they are not allowed to stop themselves from having babies. They feel it is their religious duty/responsability to do so. But, i also feel, as you pointed out, that if a couple (or a woman!) wants to have a child, there's nothing wrong with that.

I used to have the same view as you: that there were so many parentless children out there, that people should adopt them instead of bringing extra children into the world. but, I really want a child with my eyes or my intelligence... and it scares me that that child might one day develop schizophrenia.. but i still want one of my own. My own production.

[identity profile] commonpeople.livejournal.com 2003-11-17 02:08 am (UTC)(link)
maybe you could compromise by having a child of your own, and adopting one too!

[identity profile] moonlightjoy.livejournal.com 2003-11-17 06:26 am (UTC)(link)
yeah.. i was thinking about that. it's definitely a possibility! but then i'm afraid i'll prefer one over the other.. it'd be a difficult dynamic. It is being considered.

[identity profile] commonpeople.livejournal.com 2003-11-16 09:45 am (UTC)(link)
and there's also the question of you loving your child so much, you don't want to bring them into a world that cannot possibly be good to them.

:o(

sorry... i've been feeling pessimistic about our world.

[identity profile] moonlightjoy.livejournal.com 2003-11-16 07:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Ollie, that is soooo sad... I'm not sure what else to say to that.

[identity profile] commonpeople.livejournal.com 2003-11-17 02:09 am (UTC)(link)
it will pass... i'm generally an optimistic person.

[identity profile] commonpeople.livejournal.com 2003-11-17 06:45 am (UTC)(link)
::giant hug::