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Dot in the Sky ([personal profile] dotinthesky) wrote2004-05-17 11:47 am

Taken from Teqkiller's journal

Some of these professions come close to what I want to do, or what I've been involved in so far in my life:

- dietitian/nutritionist (but in an Admin role)
- clergy (I was someone's guru for a while...)
- journalist (I interviewed Morcheeba)
- career counselor (I've told my friends what to do with their lives with great accuracy)
- character actor (I was a drama student when I was 13, and I won a best actor award!)
- musician/composer (I create the best dance moves for Anastacia you will evah see in your life. I also give good names to bands.)
- artist (just take a random quote by Oscar Wilde and apply it to me)
- information-graphics designer (developed webpages for some department or other)
- editor/art director (I've dabbled)
- massage therapist (I give good massages)



Extroverted (E) 58.06% Introverted (I) 41.94%
Imaginative (N) 62.86% Realistic (S) 37.14%
Emotional (F) 67.65% Intellectual (T) 32.35%
Easygoing (P) 50% Organized (J) 50%
Your type is: ENFP
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Some of these professions come close to what I want to do, or what I've been involved in so far in my life:

- dietitian/nutritionist (but in an Admin role)
- clergy (I was someone's guru for a while...)
- journalist (I interviewed Morcheeba)
- career counselor (I've told my friends what to do with their lives with great accuracy)
- character actor (I was a drama student when I was 13, and I won a best actor award!)
- musician/composer (I create the best dance moves for Anastacia you will evah see in your life. I also give good names to bands.)
- artist (just take a random quote by Oscar Wilde and apply it to me)
- information-graphics designer (developed webpages for some department or other)
- editor/art director (I've dabbled)
- massage therapist (I give good massages)

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Right now, the situation is bleak. I've been unable to get my ass into gear and find a proper job. Those alcyon days, when I felt happy for quitting my old dull job in the Nutrition Department, are long gone.

[identity profile] sparklielizard.livejournal.com 2004-05-17 04:53 am (UTC)(link)
Heh - I got the same as you ;-)

[identity profile] commonpeople.livejournal.com 2004-05-17 05:58 am (UTC)(link)
What did you think about it? Where would your profession fall under?

[identity profile] sparklielizard.livejournal.com 2004-05-17 06:11 am (UTC)(link)
None of those really, although I quite liked the idea of making graphics for displaying information. And it amused me that I am supposed to be doing something creative - try being creative when your siblings are so much better at it than you; a lot easier to just go do something completely different like I did ;-)

[identity profile] commonpeople.livejournal.com 2004-05-17 06:42 am (UTC)(link)
I've heard of stories where the most creative sibling turned out to be an engineer, and the least creative one grew up to be a painter. It happens.

[identity profile] 4q.livejournal.com 2004-05-17 07:14 am (UTC)(link)
Ollie! what is preventing you from looking for a job properly? Is it because you want to leave?

[identity profile] commonpeople.livejournal.com 2004-05-17 07:15 am (UTC)(link)
I dunno... i think you might be right! I've got a mental block.

[identity profile] 4q.livejournal.com 2004-05-17 07:28 am (UTC)(link)
*taps foot* You must realize if you are going to stay with Kevin, and he wants to stay for another year, then that's what is going to happen darling. It wont' be bad. You are young you have lots of time for many things still

[identity profile] commonpeople.livejournal.com 2004-05-17 07:29 am (UTC)(link)
It's just that... during the week I don't feel like looking for work. Then the weekend arrives and the last thing I want to think about is work...

[identity profile] 4q.livejournal.com 2004-05-17 07:31 am (UTC)(link)
Ollie! what would you like to do?

[identity profile] commonpeople.livejournal.com 2004-05-17 07:36 am (UTC)(link)
I would like to work somewhere more creative... even outdoors. Somewhere I know I'm learning new skills. I know I'm generalizing... but I really would love to work in many places.

[identity profile] 4q.livejournal.com 2004-05-17 07:39 am (UTC)(link)
welll then it should be easy for you to find a job, perhaps spend the next couple of days really thinking about what your next step is. YOu have a comfortable life, but perhaps you need to step out of your comfort zone? are you truly happy with what you have? I am concerned about you Ollie. I think there is something more at work then just you not wanting to find a job. I think you don't want to get stuck there. so you don't want to look for something you might want to commit to. Maybe it's time to make some changes. ??

[identity profile] commonpeople.livejournal.com 2004-05-17 07:46 am (UTC)(link)
it could be... but this is really an aspect of my personality... I'm very slow to get things done, leave it to the last minute. I wouldn't mind being here if I had a good job - and I also know that going somewhere else won't necessarily get me a better job or life.

I have to face London, my life here, and do something of it. I need a swift kick in the ass.

[identity profile] 4q.livejournal.com 2004-05-17 07:48 am (UTC)(link)
ths is what I am saying.

[identity profile] commonpeople.livejournal.com 2004-05-17 08:02 am (UTC)(link)
I don't know what else to say on this, except that I suck when it comes to looking for jobs.

[identity profile] 4q.livejournal.com 2004-05-17 09:13 am (UTC)(link)
awww, you want me to come over there and give you the kick in the ass you need?

[identity profile] commonpeople.livejournal.com 2004-05-17 09:19 am (UTC)(link)
if you could! Or you can email my boyfriend and ask him to do it for you.

[identity profile] kurwa.livejournal.com 2004-05-17 08:19 am (UTC)(link)
Holy crap! I totally took that at school one day when we had a guest speaker come in. And it was accurate as hell. I forgot what I got though.

[identity profile] commonpeople.livejournal.com 2004-05-17 08:19 am (UTC)(link)
do it again and see if the same comes up.

[identity profile] dawnage.livejournal.com 2004-05-17 12:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh I *love* the icon!

[identity profile] commonpeople.livejournal.com 2004-05-18 01:41 am (UTC)(link)
Thanks! A special friend made it for me.

;)

[identity profile] peraventure.livejournal.com 2004-05-17 01:04 pm (UTC)(link)
bah! massage therapist means you've matriculated from a state sponsored school and performed enough hours of work - it's 1000 hours for NY state.

You can say you do massage or bodywork. But until then, not therapy. *grins* I love sayin' that shit. It's like Aveda graduates saying, "You polish nails, you paint a house!!"

and I swear I saw the word "brainwasher" in there at first glance. heh...

[identity profile] commonpeople.livejournal.com 2004-05-18 01:41 am (UTC)(link)
Haha... I think I had my brain washed a couple of times - with bleach.

[identity profile] peraventure.livejournal.com 2004-05-18 03:46 am (UTC)(link)
Nah, that's chlorine. stick those lumps of wax in your ear next time you go swimmin'.

[identity profile] commonpeople.livejournal.com 2004-05-18 04:30 am (UTC)(link)
by the way, have you ever heard of swimmer's ears?

[identity profile] peraventure.livejournal.com 2004-05-18 06:13 am (UTC)(link)
yeah, water stuck in the ear. sucks, but there're drops you can use to get rid of it.

[identity profile] commonpeople.livejournal.com 2004-05-18 06:55 am (UTC)(link)
but it's a disease aswell, non?

[identity profile] peraventure.livejournal.com 2004-05-18 09:16 am (UTC)(link)
je'n sais pas!
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Re: Welcome to WE-FUNK, DJ Karla on the stacks...

[identity profile] commonpeople.livejournal.com 2004-05-19 08:31 am (UTC)(link)
I can definetly see you in most of them - you are a people's person.

Re: Welcome to WE-FUNK, DJ Karla on the stacks...

[identity profile] commonpeople.livejournal.com 2004-05-19 09:05 am (UTC)(link)
Yo! Funkster!

[identity profile] lala-jones.livejournal.com 2004-05-19 12:25 pm (UTC)(link)
oh man, i've taken that thing more times than i care to admit. that theory relies on the premise that there is some underlying "essence" of you - stop the presses - i just heard a terrified scream - looked out the window, can't see anything - it's quarter to three, broad daylight, impossible to tell where the sound is coming from, between the lake and the buidings... there it is, it's frigging TEENAGERS. there's more than one now, howling together. what the fuck? i hate teenagers. i hated them when i was a teenager. (ok, i don't hate all of them, just the stupid ones that hang out in packs. i think we should get them to work - put all that hormonal energy to good use. maybe we can go some way to saving them from confusion and apathy, while we're at it.)

ok, back to business. dude, at 16 i tested as an INTP, at 20, INFP, two years ago, as ENFP, now as ENTP, and once, as INFJ. like i was saying, that test ignores the contextuality and plasticity of the individual in the social world... i can see the attraction to it, i mean i looked to it so many times myself, just as i've looked to astrology (about which i've erroneously chosen to disregard metaphysical/logical analysis, preferring to just say, fuck it, it explains things and works pragmatically... then again, all the Really Important questions are beyond metaphysical reconciliation - free will, consciousness, etc. - they force us to take the pragmatic position, if we want to acknowledge what we feel as real (consciousness and volition)... ok, forget all that. irrelevant, inappropriate here. forgive jittery coffee brain.

what i think i was trying to get at was this:

1) insofar as you've been given the opportunity to try things (you haven't really had the chance to be a head of state yet, as far as i know), you already know, more or less, what you're good at and what you like. Motivation and aptitude tend to go hand in hand (barring things like mood disorders and socio-economic barriers).

2) what you don't know is how to fit that into the existing and projected economic regimes.

you could take the external market as a cue - nutritionists may or may not be in high demand. but what you must ask yourself is: are you willing to become obsessed (or act that way, as you'll have to for school, "networking", job search, etc.) with nutrition for the next xxxx years of your life?

what are you willing to become obsessed with? (morrissey doesn't count. Scratch that, he can - pop/culture journalism is there, and really, that's what you are, kind of, already.)

3) as you mentioned, you need to kick yourself in the ass and become an entrepreneur. all of us do, unless we're content to passively accept the world as it's given to us, the jobs as they're handed to us by people who took college courses in Human Resources. it's an unfortunate reality of our time. BUT, i think, i mean i can see in people around me (my brother, the immigrants i've met recently, and some of my friends here), that this is also a truth:

- once you accept a role, an identity, a purpose, whether it's a result of a "compromise" or a focussed passion, that kind of entrepreneurship/obsession fuels itself. one project leads to another, one success gives you the boost to try again. you start immersing yourself in that world, you meet people, you make connections, you do work; it starts slow, but it really does take on a momentum outside of yourself. other people start inviting you to parties, they think of you for jobs, they recommend you to others... once you've decided what you are going to do, the rest kind of takes care of itself.

and it will, for you, because you're talented at the things you've tried so far, you pick things up quickly, you're good with people, you're not pushy...

i think one of the posters above (i forget who, can't see that screen from here) got it right on the money: think/act through whatever blocks you have, and settle on something. it's all gravy, after that. sorry this is so long.






I like long...

[identity profile] commonpeople.livejournal.com 2004-05-20 03:11 am (UTC)(link)
Thanks!

I agree with you - it's just a matter of putting action to words. But, the test is correct in many ways - if, on doing it the first time, you stick to answers which come close to the general truth of your behaviout (i.e. what you are most likely to do.)

For example, I'm very unlikely to become a pilot.

So, in essence, the quiz did get close to my aspirations and what I'm good at. Taking the quiz tooo many times is wrong though. :)

pots and kettles

[identity profile] lala-jones.livejournal.com 2004-05-19 12:49 pm (UTC)(link)
yeah, i know, i'm not walking the talk. i give crude advice and i'm arrogant about it. and it's SO easy to just gloss over difficult and often loooong processes, as i did in my post above - yeah, just decide something, ollie. sorry about that. as you know i'm still figuring things out myself. but i've seen that whole momentum thing happen in other people's lives, absolutely... and i know that i'm a whole lot closer to where i want to be than i was last year, even, and i also know how much has gone into it - endless conversations with good friends, acquaintances; tons of research and letter writing; a lot of hard thinking (at night, in the morning, in the middle of some crappy job i hated doing) that sometimes led to uncomfortable conclusions; and i know that's exactly what you're doing, too, in your own way.

sorry for being a big-mouth.

Re: pots and kettles

[identity profile] commonpeople.livejournal.com 2004-05-20 03:12 am (UTC)(link)
What are you talking about??? You weren't arrogant at all - i felt as if your advice came from the sphere of ideas, and it was very welcome.

Thank you.