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I had to go to Camden Town this morning, to drop more handouts at the printer. It's beautiful outside but I had to go underground and take the Tube.

The seats were full so I had to stand. I stood near a woman holding a little girl. The woman said to another woman, in an american accent, "mom, we get off the next stop." The train stopped, they stood up and left. They were huge.

Now, there's something I've been noticing lately which I find quite strange: everytime I see a morbidly obese person, they always turn out to be American. There are hundreds of thousands of Americans visiting London, and they come in all shapes and sizes. But, but, but... I've never seen a morbidly obese person who was not American.

You might be wondering why I find it strange. If someone is fat, who cares except that person? It's nobody's business. I know that, and I agree with that. But, just out of curiosity, I'm interested in this phenomenon (and it is a phenomenon - there are even books about it) because it does represent, maybe symbolically, the dark side of America's culture: on one hand, excess, indulgence, lack of control; on the other hand, hopelessness, the individual as a freak show, sadness. In one way or another, those are feelings and notions which I attach to America nowadays. Could it be that unhealthy lifestyles and a drift away from a more integrated life with nature is the result of this - the ultimate result of industrialization? Is it an example of what can happen to capitalist cultures that have strayed too far away from a point where care for the individual is a priority? Or is it just an example of a society where creature comforts are more valued than simple things like exercise and healthy eating?

I've been to a few cities in America (Athens Georgia, New York City, various parts of Florida, Buffalo New York, Hampstead Massachussets) and I know they are all very distinct from each other... still, some cultural similarities can be drawn which hold the American people together and make them stand out from the rest of the world. Morbid obesity just might be one of the most glaring ones , something that is becoming more noticeable to the rest of the world.

on 2003-09-17 01:53 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] commonpeople.livejournal.com
wow wow wow! you opened a whole lot of topics there. But, for the sake of this post, I won't get into GMO's (which I disagree with you), or organic food.

I agree with your statement: "The primary health concern of society should be obesity because of the predominance of heart disease in modern society"... and also that people need to get exercise. But, as for food being cheap, it's not true for the 3rd world! I come from Brasil, and my family lives in a fairly small countryside city (500,000). The majority of the population is working class - they work long hours, long shifts, they don't have the time to eat healthyly everyday. When it comes to fatty rich food, they are a quick and cheap alternative that people in Brasil find for their meals. I take walks through my city and I see so many unhealthy looking people, with awful skin, and in many ways they are becoming like the U.S. There's also the question of people having lost the tradition of cooking together, of passing down to younger generations the recipes for good dishes. If you ask any teenager what they like eating (irrespective of their class) they'll tell you that it's junk food.
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on 2003-09-17 09:19 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] commonpeople.livejournal.com
i think the key might be lack of exercise. The U.S. seems to be a culture highly dependent on the car, so people get to burn very few calories. People in the past didn't necessarily eat better (I'm thinking of this scary book I read about the Meat Packing industry at the turn of last century). But people walked everywhere, had to hand wash their clothes, etc. Only the wealthy could afford to get fat (and wasn't there a period when robust looking women were considered more beautiful than Venus?)

My mom's family comes from this small village (not the city I mentioned earlied), very agrarian. They eat everything fried in pig's fat, which is very bad! But before, they used to climb a mountain in the morning, taking the cows, etc, and climb it down in the evening... they were like stick figures. Now, because the culture of the area is changing, they don't execise anymore but still eat everything in pig's fat. Result: everyone dropping dead from heart attacks in their early 50s.
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on 2003-09-19 01:10 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] commonpeople.livejournal.com
haha! it's the entertainment box fault. 300 channels to choose from, all promising to keep your eyes peeled and never let you go...

do you exercise or practice any sport?
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on 2003-09-21 09:25 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] commonpeople.livejournal.com
that's what Marlon Brando used to say... and look at where it got him! Get them spandex shorts out of the drawer!
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on 2003-09-22 07:54 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] commonpeople.livejournal.com
but you might be run over! maybe you should get an absbuster.
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on 2003-09-22 08:19 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] commonpeople.livejournal.com
if it's only for people with rolls of fat, then yeah!
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on 2003-09-23 01:36 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] commonpeople.livejournal.com
a blobel needs to manage his time wisely, include an hour of biking, three times a week, into his schedule. Then he will, hopefully one day, stop being a blobel... do you eat fast food regularly?
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on 2003-09-24 01:36 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] commonpeople.livejournal.com
every other day? or, perhaps up to 3 times a week?
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on 2003-09-24 08:15 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] commonpeople.livejournal.com
bad! *slaps wrist very hard*
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on 2003-09-25 01:27 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] commonpeople.livejournal.com
*brings out tennis racket*

pull your trousers down and bend over.
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on 2003-09-26 08:00 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] commonpeople.livejournal.com
no, it's gonna leave a marc
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on 2003-09-26 09:28 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] commonpeople.livejournal.com
it's a mark with a c at the end. ;)
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on 2003-09-26 09:33 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] commonpeople.livejournal.com
marc marc marc
and jimbo jimbo jimbo

*sticks tongue out*

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