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Dot in the Sky ([personal profile] dotinthesky) wrote2004-11-09 01:56 pm

Religions, America and the World

"In a society that believes in nothing, people who believe in anything can appear to have great power. But this says more about how isolated and atomized we have become rather than reflect their true power."

- paraphrased from The Power of Nightmares

[identity profile] 4q.livejournal.com 2004-11-09 02:41 pm (UTC)(link)
that's amazing

[identity profile] commonpeople.livejournal.com 2004-11-09 02:47 pm (UTC)(link)
It was a brilliant documentary. I learned a lot from it. I never knew, for example, that Republicans were originally against Religion and the State coming together. They showed Republican rallies with speakers defending the rights of women to have abortions! But, once they made alliances with the religious right everything changed.

[identity profile] 4q.livejournal.com 2004-11-09 02:53 pm (UTC)(link)
ha ha isn't that funny that everyone goes where the money is.

Oh I must email you. i have good things to talk about

[identity profile] commonpeople.livejournal.com 2004-11-09 03:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Good! I'll await your email.

"Money changed Everything"

-The Smiths

[identity profile] i-am-scowling.livejournal.com 2004-11-10 06:36 am (UTC)(link)
whoa whoa whoa! i would put down good money to see that in action. once again: DAMN THE EVANGELICALS.

i wish i could've seen that documentary.

[identity profile] commonpeople.livejournal.com 2004-11-10 09:26 am (UTC)(link)
Check out the BBC website and see if they have any info on how to acquire it.

[identity profile] commonpeople.livejournal.com 2004-11-09 02:47 pm (UTC)(link)
By the way, I might have to call you soon to interview you about the Lake of the Woods. ;)

[identity profile] 4q.livejournal.com 2004-11-09 02:52 pm (UTC)(link)
yes you must! Sorry I haven't written about it yet. I just haven't had time. the one thing I will tell you is that it's very green. lol

[identity profile] commonpeople.livejournal.com 2004-11-09 03:18 pm (UTC)(link)
No worries. I could tell you were busy. ;)

My novel is set there so I need to get the spirit of the place from you. When is a good day to call?

[identity profile] 4q.livejournal.com 2004-11-09 03:37 pm (UTC)(link)
everyday!

but really anyday except tuesdays are good for me. on the weekend is always good :)

[identity profile] commonpeople.livejournal.com 2004-11-09 04:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Maybe I'll call you this weekend ok? It depends on a few things, but I'll email and let you know if I can. Send me your home's phone by email cause I don't have it.

[identity profile] 4q.livejournal.com 2004-11-09 04:13 pm (UTC)(link)
well call whenver is convinent for you. <3

and yes I will email the phone number, I just emailed you the other email

[identity profile] commonpeople.livejournal.com 2004-11-09 05:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Cool. Thanks!

[identity profile] tete-glitter.livejournal.com 2004-11-09 02:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Eu queria ver esse documentário :(

[identity profile] commonpeople.livejournal.com 2004-11-09 03:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Quem sabe nao passa em algum canal a cabo ai?

[identity profile] tete-glitter.livejournal.com 2004-11-09 04:50 pm (UTC)(link)
I hope so. Mas deve demorar meses pra isso acontecer...

[identity profile] commonpeople.livejournal.com 2004-11-09 05:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Acho que nao! Talvez voce possa escrever para a BBC e perguntar.

[identity profile] tete-glitter.livejournal.com 2004-11-09 06:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Boa idéia :)

[identity profile] vilia64.livejournal.com 2004-11-09 03:16 pm (UTC)(link)
What can I say? I didn't vote for him-

But I check that site everyday for the news they don't broadcast out here- it's more and more like a dictatorship in the states. That was a great article. I'll be in hiding 'till '08....

[identity profile] commonpeople.livejournal.com 2004-11-09 03:41 pm (UTC)(link)
I would like to know how many Americans who were able to vote didn't bother...

[identity profile] vilia64.livejournal.com 2004-11-09 04:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Well normally only 30% of the actual country votes, but this time it was a whopping 50%. But there's been talks of hacked voting machines, how Kerry was supposed to have won, tampered ballots, blah blah blah-

I will not have faith in this country until all the Bushes and their crummy Administration are out of office- then I'll come out from under my blankets- haha

[identity profile] commonpeople.livejournal.com 2004-11-09 05:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Your country needs to sort out its voting system. Even Brazil, supposedly so backwards, has a system that is working. We have moved from the written ballots to electronic ballots, and all political parties have independent supervisors making sure there is no tampering with them.

[identity profile] vilia64.livejournal.com 2004-11-09 05:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Don't I wish!

But, that'll be the day-

[identity profile] commonpeople.livejournal.com 2004-11-10 09:22 am (UTC)(link)
Is there no way that the government can stop each state from independently setting up its own voting system?

[identity profile] vilia64.livejournal.com 2004-11-10 02:12 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't think so. My government's too cheap to spend money on making sure that all the voting is done within set guidelines. They'd rather not spend money to ensure an honest election when they can spend billions and kill my countrymen and people in foreign lands- where's the fun in that?

[identity profile] commonpeople.livejournal.com 2004-11-10 02:42 pm (UTC)(link)
I have a friend in Sacramento who works for Calpirg, this organization that lobbies for environmental issues. Maybe the solution would be for people to spread the word, to get more proactive. Your country has four years to prepare itself for the next election.

[identity profile] vilia64.livejournal.com 2004-11-10 03:47 pm (UTC)(link)
We'd better get started then-

But the road is rife with bible-thumping, backwoods, war-mongering, money funneling, women and minority opressing, cheating, theiving, creepy. white Republicans.......

[identity profile] vilia64.livejournal.com 2004-11-10 04:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Haha- I was going to, but wasn't sure if the government was monitoring emails- haha

To continue:

........inbred, swayed-back, po-dunk, white trash........

[identity profile] commonpeople.livejournal.com 2004-11-10 04:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, they were thinking "those motherfuckers insulted my mama and my papa! Just cause they are cousins it don't mean it's wrong!"

[identity profile] vilia64.livejournal.com 2004-11-10 04:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Or brother and sister- who wants to pay for two weddin's? haha

[identity profile] commonpeople.livejournal.com 2004-11-10 04:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Also keeps the money in the family.

[identity profile] vilia64.livejournal.com 2004-11-10 04:52 pm (UTC)(link)
hear hear

[identity profile] i-am-scowling.livejournal.com 2004-11-10 06:37 am (UTC)(link)
best icon ever.

[identity profile] ephemeritis.livejournal.com 2004-11-09 03:36 pm (UTC)(link)
I love the fact that you and I watch the same programmes. :D

[identity profile] commonpeople.livejournal.com 2004-11-09 04:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Used to... now I spend my evenings fighting with a ballpoint pen and a notepad. I'm sure you have similar feelings towards your collages. ;)

[identity profile] commonpeople.livejournal.com 2004-11-09 04:40 pm (UTC)(link)
I suppose... I'll post a tinsy winsy paragraph tomorrow. :)

[identity profile] suede.livejournal.com 2004-11-09 04:11 pm (UTC)(link)
you can be president of the states with only 27% of the votes, thats anti-democratic

[identity profile] commonpeople.livejournal.com 2004-11-09 05:11 pm (UTC)(link)
What's worse are the thousands who chose not to vote and participate in the political process.

[identity profile] suede.livejournal.com 2004-11-09 05:15 pm (UTC)(link)
some people think thats cool
idiots